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	<title>Comments on: Design Us A Logo</title>
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		<title>By: Tony O</title>
		<link>http://www.thehugoawards.org/2009/04/design-us-a-logo/comment-page-1/#comment-439</link>
		<dc:creator>Tony O</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Apr 2009 18:55:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To the inspiring Graphic Artist trying to get your name out there. DO&#039;NT DO THIS!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To the inspiring Graphic Artist trying to get your name out there. DO&#8217;NT DO THIS!!!</p>
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		<title>By: La importancia de saber leer &#171; La Guía del Sedentario Galáctico</title>
		<link>http://www.thehugoawards.org/2009/04/design-us-a-logo/comment-page-1/#comment-435</link>
		<dc:creator>La importancia de saber leer &#171; La Guía del Sedentario Galáctico</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Apr 2009 16:51:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] ciencia ficción, Diseño, fail, Hugo Awards, logo    Como mencioné hace unos cuantos posts, los premios Hugo andan buscando logotipo. Al parecer, todavía no tienen nada que imprimir en camisetas, portadas de libros premiados, [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] ciencia ficción, Diseño, fail, Hugo Awards, logo    Como mencioné hace unos cuantos posts, los premios Hugo andan buscando logotipo. Al parecer, todavía no tienen nada que imprimir en camisetas, portadas de libros premiados, [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Custom Logo Design</title>
		<link>http://www.thehugoawards.org/2009/04/design-us-a-logo/comment-page-1/#comment-433</link>
		<dc:creator>Custom Logo Design</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Apr 2009 11:51:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Disigning a logo for free????? I dont think there would many who would that for you. Lets hope someone may find a way out to you</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Disigning a logo for free????? I dont think there would many who would that for you. Lets hope someone may find a way out to you</p>
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		<title>By: Un sufrimiento para novatos &#171; La Guía del Sedentario Galáctico</title>
		<link>http://www.thehugoawards.org/2009/04/design-us-a-logo/comment-page-1/#comment-421</link>
		<dc:creator>Un sufrimiento para novatos &#171; La Guía del Sedentario Galáctico</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Apr 2009 20:44:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] libre en la academia (últimamente tengo muchos de esos) para hacer un par de logotipos para cierto concurso, y justo cuando estaba mirando los tipos de letra disponibles, se colgó el [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] libre en la academia (últimamente tengo muchos de esos) para hacer un par de logotipos para cierto concurso, y justo cuando estaba mirando los tipos de letra disponibles, se colgó el [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Designer who likes Hugo</title>
		<link>http://www.thehugoawards.org/2009/04/design-us-a-logo/comment-page-1/#comment-415</link>
		<dc:creator>Designer who likes Hugo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Apr 2009 18:21:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sad to see a blessing of design contests from an org like Hugo.

If Hugo is the exception to the questionable ethics of creative service contests as I keep hearing over and over, then I’d expect Hugo to be selling that angle. Instead, they sell it like any other contest holder: “this gives a designer a head start”, etc. Just like all others it’s packaged as good fun, and even proportionately beneficial between parties.

Hugo is an umbrella org for a creative sector that is a cousin to design. Hugo certainly deserves it’s fan support, so it’s not quite picking on Hugo alone. I think those that are putting a frown on this are trying to slow the widespread perception that design contests are a healthy first resort to take advantage of for anyone. Most are grossly exploitive and go to extra lengths to be extra-exploitive in the fine print. So to hear Hugo, part of the overall greater creative services brethren adopt the usual “It’s fun for the designers, they’ll enjoy it” tone is (to me) a bit sad and insensitive.

Designers have good reason to keep their market value strong, and I think that’s all their doing here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sad to see a blessing of design contests from an org like Hugo.</p>
<p>If Hugo is the exception to the questionable ethics of creative service contests as I keep hearing over and over, then I’d expect Hugo to be selling that angle. Instead, they sell it like any other contest holder: “this gives a designer a head start”, etc. Just like all others it’s packaged as good fun, and even proportionately beneficial between parties.</p>
<p>Hugo is an umbrella org for a creative sector that is a cousin to design. Hugo certainly deserves it’s fan support, so it’s not quite picking on Hugo alone. I think those that are putting a frown on this are trying to slow the widespread perception that design contests are a healthy first resort to take advantage of for anyone. Most are grossly exploitive and go to extra lengths to be extra-exploitive in the fine print. So to hear Hugo, part of the overall greater creative services brethren adopt the usual “It’s fun for the designers, they’ll enjoy it” tone is (to me) a bit sad and insensitive.</p>
<p>Designers have good reason to keep their market value strong, and I think that’s all their doing here.</p>
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		<title>By: Nermo &#187; Friday List: On My Radar This Week</title>
		<link>http://www.thehugoawards.org/2009/04/design-us-a-logo/comment-page-1/#comment-409</link>
		<dc:creator>Nermo &#187; Friday List: On My Radar This Week</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Apr 2009 17:12:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Hugo Awards Logo: create the logo for the annual sci-fi lit awards.  Be recognized by nerds across the world! [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Hugo Awards Logo: create the logo for the annual sci-fi lit awards.  Be recognized by nerds across the world! [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Tony Gleeson</title>
		<link>http://www.thehugoawards.org/2009/04/design-us-a-logo/comment-page-1/#comment-407</link>
		<dc:creator>Tony Gleeson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Apr 2009 16:49:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The rules still stipulate that all work technically becomes sole property of the WSFS. Look, I know in my heart that the WSFS is composed of good people who mean nothing but the best, but my colleagues who are pointing out the aspects that haven&#039;t been considered are, IMO, totally right. An artist cannot go into a contract dependent on the kindness of strangers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The rules still stipulate that all work technically becomes sole property of the WSFS. Look, I know in my heart that the WSFS is composed of good people who mean nothing but the best, but my colleagues who are pointing out the aspects that haven&#8217;t been considered are, IMO, totally right. An artist cannot go into a contract dependent on the kindness of strangers.</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin Standlee</title>
		<link>http://www.thehugoawards.org/2009/04/design-us-a-logo/comment-page-1/#comment-406</link>
		<dc:creator>Kevin Standlee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Apr 2009 06:49:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tony:

The reason for that wording is that every one of the logos is going to include the words &quot;Hugo Award,&quot; and WSFS owns a registered service mark on &quot;Hugo Award.&quot;  The entrants could of course make new work based on their old work as long as it doesn&#039;t include the registered service mark.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tony:</p>
<p>The reason for that wording is that every one of the logos is going to include the words &#8220;Hugo Award,&#8221; and WSFS owns a registered service mark on &#8220;Hugo Award.&#8221;  The entrants could of course make new work based on their old work as long as it doesn&#8217;t include the registered service mark.</p>
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		<title>By: Tony Gleeson</title>
		<link>http://www.thehugoawards.org/2009/04/design-us-a-logo/comment-page-1/#comment-403</link>
		<dc:creator>Tony Gleeson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Apr 2009 04:08:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I note in the Official rules that all entries become the sole property of WSFS, including the ones that don&#039;t win and don&#039;t receive any payment. It is also stated &quot;re-use of unsuccessful entries would be difficult without infringing existing WSFS rights.&quot; That&#039;s disturbing. That unequivocally means a lot of people are working for free.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I note in the Official rules that all entries become the sole property of WSFS, including the ones that don&#8217;t win and don&#8217;t receive any payment. It is also stated &#8220;re-use of unsuccessful entries would be difficult without infringing existing WSFS rights.&#8221; That&#8217;s disturbing. That unequivocally means a lot of people are working for free.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Walsh</title>
		<link>http://www.thehugoawards.org/2009/04/design-us-a-logo/comment-page-1/#comment-398</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Walsh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Apr 2009 19:59:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;What do you think designers do for a living?&quot;

Like Chip Kidd who is one of the judges ?</description>
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<p>Like Chip Kidd who is one of the judges ?</p>
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